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[left]Cuomo donor from KJ pays $6M for land
Market value of Monroe property was about $825K
Chris McKenna
Times Herald-Record
Posted Jul. 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM
MONROE - The truck garage off Route 17 and the 22-acre land strip on which it sits seemed to be worth under $1 million, based on the value the Town of Monroe assigned it for property-tax purposes.
But Mayer Hirsch, the Kiryas Joel man behind the recent $250,000 campaign contribution to Gov. Andrew Cuomo, was willing to pay a lot more.
Property records filed last month indicate that Hirsch shelled out $6 million, or more than seven times the parcel's estimated market value of $826,700. He made the purchase on May 26 through a limited liability corporation called 17-105 Holdings LLC, which listed his home address as its own and identified him as its manager and sole member.
Hirsch, reached on his cell phone on Thursday, declined to discuss the purchase or explain why the former home of R.O. Excavating Co. was worth so much to him. He called it a private matter and joked that perhaps he would find diamonds there.
Hirsch recently received media attention for a different sort of transaction involving other corporations linked to him. Five entities bearing his and his son's addresses poured $250,000 into Cuomo's campaign account on July 13 and July 14, less than a week after the governor vetoed two bills that Kiryas Joel leaders had strongly lobbied against as a threat to their community's expansion plans. The donations appeared on Cuomo's campaign disclosure report that same week and set off a furor among supporters of the two bills.
On Thursday, Hirsch declined to discuss the Cuomo donations as well. That, too, was a private matter, he said.
The property he bought for $6 million is near the County Route 105 overpass and Monroe state police barracks and is conspicuous from Route 17 because of the flotilla of vehicles parked in front of the five-bay garage and on cleared land beside it. A decade ago, the vehicular occupation consisted of cars and trucks from two Harriman dealerships. Today, it includes Kiryas Joel school buses, trailers for Kiryas Joel's poultry slaughterhouse and used vehicles for Hershey's Auto Inc.
Lorenzo Oliveri, the Monroe resident and R.O. Excavating owner who sold Hirsch the property, didn't respond to phone messages left at his home. Records indicate he gave Hirsch a $5.6 million mortgage.
The land may have fetched so high a price because of its development potential and the possibility - a remote one for now - of a new road being built through it. Orange County has repeatedly applied for a $30 million federal grant to build "Larkin Drive West," a 1.8-mile-long connection between County Route 105 and Route 208 in Monroe. The former Oliveri property would form the eastern entrance to "Larkin Drive West" and is zoned for light industry.
The 22 acres are located across Route 17 from Kiryas Joel in an unincorporated area that is owned largely by Hasidic investors but excluded from the contentious efforts now under way to expand the village through annexation.
Hirsch may have bought the property not for himself but for Vaad Hakiryah, the landholding arm of Kiryas Joel's main congregation. That organization, which he controls, scooped up one of the area's last farms - 140-acre ACE Farm in Monroe and Woodbury - for $12.7 million in 2004 and owns almost a third of the undeveloped land in the 507-acre annexation petition.[/left]
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Market value of Monroe property was about $825K
Chris McKenna
Times Herald-Record
Posted Jul. 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM
MONROE - The truck garage off Route 17 and the 22-acre land strip on which it sits seemed to be worth under $1 million, based on the value the Town of Monroe assigned it for property-tax purposes.
But Mayer Hirsch, the Kiryas Joel man behind the recent $250,000 campaign contribution to Gov. Andrew Cuomo, was willing to pay a lot more.
Property records filed last month indicate that Hirsch shelled out $6 million, or more than seven times the parcel's estimated market value of $826,700. He made the purchase on May 26 through a limited liability corporation called 17-105 Holdings LLC, which listed his home address as its own and identified him as its manager and sole member.
Hirsch, reached on his cell phone on Thursday, declined to discuss the purchase or explain why the former home of R.O. Excavating Co. was worth so much to him. He called it a private matter and joked that perhaps he would find diamonds there.
Hirsch recently received media attention for a different sort of transaction involving other corporations linked to him. Five entities bearing his and his son's addresses poured $250,000 into Cuomo's campaign account on July 13 and July 14, less than a week after the governor vetoed two bills that Kiryas Joel leaders had strongly lobbied against as a threat to their community's expansion plans. The donations appeared on Cuomo's campaign disclosure report that same week and set off a furor among supporters of the two bills.
On Thursday, Hirsch declined to discuss the Cuomo donations as well. That, too, was a private matter, he said.
The property he bought for $6 million is near the County Route 105 overpass and Monroe state police barracks and is conspicuous from Route 17 because of the flotilla of vehicles parked in front of the five-bay garage and on cleared land beside it. A decade ago, the vehicular occupation consisted of cars and trucks from two Harriman dealerships. Today, it includes Kiryas Joel school buses, trailers for Kiryas Joel's poultry slaughterhouse and used vehicles for Hershey's Auto Inc.
Lorenzo Oliveri, the Monroe resident and R.O. Excavating owner who sold Hirsch the property, didn't respond to phone messages left at his home. Records indicate he gave Hirsch a $5.6 million mortgage.
The land may have fetched so high a price because of its development potential and the possibility - a remote one for now - of a new road being built through it. Orange County has repeatedly applied for a $30 million federal grant to build "Larkin Drive West," a 1.8-mile-long connection between County Route 105 and Route 208 in Monroe. The former Oliveri property would form the eastern entrance to "Larkin Drive West" and is zoned for light industry.
The 22 acres are located across Route 17 from Kiryas Joel in an unincorporated area that is owned largely by Hasidic investors but excluded from the contentious efforts now under way to expand the village through annexation.
Hirsch may have bought the property not for himself but for Vaad Hakiryah, the landholding arm of Kiryas Joel's main congregation. That organization, which he controls, scooped up one of the area's last farms - 140-acre ACE Farm in Monroe and Woodbury - for $12.7 million in 2004 and owns almost a third of the undeveloped land in the 507-acre annexation petition.[/left]
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Re: היסטארישע אנעקסעישאן פון 507 אקער לאנד אין קרית יואל
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[left]‘The impact cannot be overcome’
M-W School District’s analysis of KJ’s draft annexation statement also raises the possibility that school boundaries cannot be legally redrawn
Monroe-Woodbury High School. The lawyer who analyzed how annexation would affect the district wrote: "The impact cannot be overcome."
By Bob Quinn
CENTRAL VALLEY — The Monroe-Woodbury School District’s response to the Kiryas Joel draft environmental statement is unequivocal: The two annexation petitions of land in the Town of Monroe into the village should be rejected.
Judith Crelin Mayle, the lawyer for the district, said in Monroe-Woodbury’s official response to the report by Tim Miller Associates, Inc., that many of the petitions filed by homeowners requesting annexation are marked by inaccuracies, the lack of information and commissions.
In one instance, Mayle wrote that one property (SBL 65-1-32) is not listed for the Town of Monroe.
In all, the school district’s lawyer claimed more than 30 properties have these problems. Invalidating the signatures on these properties would reduce the assessed value of the land to be annexed by more than $2.6 million.
Elsewhere in her report, Mayle assessed the impact of annexation.
“We submit that regardless of the size of the annexation, the impact to the MWCSD is significant,” the lawyer wrote. “Notwithstanding that the demographic and financial projections due to the significant growth in Kiryas Joel’s population in the 10 short years noted in the DGEIS are underestimated, even using these inaccurate premises, the impact on MWCSD cannot be overcome.
“Without some control in growth, the impact to the MWCSD and surrounding communities will rise dramatically. “
School boundariesThe lawyer also raised the specter that the law that created the Kiryas Joel School District might not allow school boundaries to expand should annexation move ahead.
“We don’t know. We are still vetting the law,” said Monroe-Woodbury School Superintendent Elsie Rodriguez said in an interview this week.
This is a critical issue - among many critical issues - because it affects school district finances and potentially who could vote on school board candidates and budget matters.
East Ramapo.
That’s the fear - a similar religious group in that Rockland County community has gained control of the school board. So many programs have been stripped that it is hard for students to earn enough credits graduate. The state lawmaker representing the area has called for the state to appoint a monitor to oversee the district.
It’s not that Monroe-Woodbury would want to retain the annexed property should that happen.
No, it is a recognition that the law that finally created the Kiryas Joel School District had been tested in the courts three times as unconstitutional.
Final approval of the law came on Oct. 29, 1999. And to do so, it had to be particular, specific and precise.
The fear - and there’s no way to test this or so many other elements of this issue - is that by changing the boundaries of the Kiryas Joel School District would be illegal.
And that, according to one source within the district, would dissolve the KJ district.
“And then we’d have East Ramapo,” the source speculated.
Officials from Kiryas Joel and the Kiryas Joel School District have long said the school lines would be redrawn to include any property annexed into the village.
In its May 13, 2014, resolution declaring that it would work with their counterparts in Monroe-Woodbury to change the boundaries upon annexation, members of the Kiryas Joel School Board acknowledged what has happened in Rockland County:
“WHEREAS, Monroe-Woodbury parents are concerned that demographic changes caused by annexation will ultimately result in budget defeats and a reconstitution of their Board of Education by electing residents of the annexed area who do not send their children to public schools, similar to the situation currently existing in the East Ramapo Central School District,” reads one section of the resolution. (The entire resolution follows this story.)
Earlier this week, Monroe Town Supervisor Harley E. Doles III sent out an email, recounting a conversation he said he just had with Joel Petlin, the Kiryas Joel school superintendent.
“The KJ school board already passed a resolution concerning redrawing of lines,” Doles wrote in his email. “Surprisingly, the M-W school board has not. Each day that passes the concern of M-W becoming East Ramapo grows and grows.
“If we want as a community to protect the quality of education for those attending private school and respect the rights of other’s who choose private education, both boards have the solution in their hands.
“My board has never met with the school boards to discuss issues related to annexation,” Doles added. “Maybe it is about time. I am sure the public would feel better knowing more rather than less with what goes on.”
‘I am compelled to respond’At Wednesday’s Monroe-Woodbury School Board meeting, School Superintendent Elsie Rodriguez responded to Doles’ email.
“Mr. Doles appears to have pre-determined the annexation petitions without an understanding of the deficiencies in those petitions, the impacts of annexation and based on inaccurate information,” she said.
She also discussed the language of the law which created the KJ School district, noting that its boundaries shall be “conterminously” with the existing boundaries of the Village of Kiryas Joel.
“If either of the two annexation petitions currently pending with the Town of Monroe is approved, then the Village and KJ School District boundary lines will no longer be coterminous,” Rodriguez in her comments. (The text of the superintendent’s statement follows below.)
Editor’s note: Excerpts from Judith Crelin Mayle’s report for the Monroe-Woodbury School District can be found on th district's web site[/left].
http://www.mw.k12.ny.us/webpages/annexkiryasjoel/index.cfm?subpage=20446
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M-W School District’s analysis of KJ’s draft annexation statement also raises the possibility that school boundaries cannot be legally redrawn
Monroe-Woodbury High School. The lawyer who analyzed how annexation would affect the district wrote: "The impact cannot be overcome."
By Bob Quinn
CENTRAL VALLEY — The Monroe-Woodbury School District’s response to the Kiryas Joel draft environmental statement is unequivocal: The two annexation petitions of land in the Town of Monroe into the village should be rejected.
Judith Crelin Mayle, the lawyer for the district, said in Monroe-Woodbury’s official response to the report by Tim Miller Associates, Inc., that many of the petitions filed by homeowners requesting annexation are marked by inaccuracies, the lack of information and commissions.
In one instance, Mayle wrote that one property (SBL 65-1-32) is not listed for the Town of Monroe.
In all, the school district’s lawyer claimed more than 30 properties have these problems. Invalidating the signatures on these properties would reduce the assessed value of the land to be annexed by more than $2.6 million.
Elsewhere in her report, Mayle assessed the impact of annexation.
“We submit that regardless of the size of the annexation, the impact to the MWCSD is significant,” the lawyer wrote. “Notwithstanding that the demographic and financial projections due to the significant growth in Kiryas Joel’s population in the 10 short years noted in the DGEIS are underestimated, even using these inaccurate premises, the impact on MWCSD cannot be overcome.
“Without some control in growth, the impact to the MWCSD and surrounding communities will rise dramatically. “
School boundariesThe lawyer also raised the specter that the law that created the Kiryas Joel School District might not allow school boundaries to expand should annexation move ahead.
“We don’t know. We are still vetting the law,” said Monroe-Woodbury School Superintendent Elsie Rodriguez said in an interview this week.
This is a critical issue - among many critical issues - because it affects school district finances and potentially who could vote on school board candidates and budget matters.
East Ramapo.
That’s the fear - a similar religious group in that Rockland County community has gained control of the school board. So many programs have been stripped that it is hard for students to earn enough credits graduate. The state lawmaker representing the area has called for the state to appoint a monitor to oversee the district.
It’s not that Monroe-Woodbury would want to retain the annexed property should that happen.
No, it is a recognition that the law that finally created the Kiryas Joel School District had been tested in the courts three times as unconstitutional.
Final approval of the law came on Oct. 29, 1999. And to do so, it had to be particular, specific and precise.
The fear - and there’s no way to test this or so many other elements of this issue - is that by changing the boundaries of the Kiryas Joel School District would be illegal.
And that, according to one source within the district, would dissolve the KJ district.
“And then we’d have East Ramapo,” the source speculated.
Officials from Kiryas Joel and the Kiryas Joel School District have long said the school lines would be redrawn to include any property annexed into the village.
In its May 13, 2014, resolution declaring that it would work with their counterparts in Monroe-Woodbury to change the boundaries upon annexation, members of the Kiryas Joel School Board acknowledged what has happened in Rockland County:
“WHEREAS, Monroe-Woodbury parents are concerned that demographic changes caused by annexation will ultimately result in budget defeats and a reconstitution of their Board of Education by electing residents of the annexed area who do not send their children to public schools, similar to the situation currently existing in the East Ramapo Central School District,” reads one section of the resolution. (The entire resolution follows this story.)
Earlier this week, Monroe Town Supervisor Harley E. Doles III sent out an email, recounting a conversation he said he just had with Joel Petlin, the Kiryas Joel school superintendent.
“The KJ school board already passed a resolution concerning redrawing of lines,” Doles wrote in his email. “Surprisingly, the M-W school board has not. Each day that passes the concern of M-W becoming East Ramapo grows and grows.
“If we want as a community to protect the quality of education for those attending private school and respect the rights of other’s who choose private education, both boards have the solution in their hands.
“My board has never met with the school boards to discuss issues related to annexation,” Doles added. “Maybe it is about time. I am sure the public would feel better knowing more rather than less with what goes on.”
‘I am compelled to respond’At Wednesday’s Monroe-Woodbury School Board meeting, School Superintendent Elsie Rodriguez responded to Doles’ email.
“Mr. Doles appears to have pre-determined the annexation petitions without an understanding of the deficiencies in those petitions, the impacts of annexation and based on inaccurate information,” she said.
She also discussed the language of the law which created the KJ School district, noting that its boundaries shall be “conterminously” with the existing boundaries of the Village of Kiryas Joel.
“If either of the two annexation petitions currently pending with the Town of Monroe is approved, then the Village and KJ School District boundary lines will no longer be coterminous,” Rodriguez in her comments. (The text of the superintendent’s statement follows below.)
Editor’s note: Excerpts from Judith Crelin Mayle’s report for the Monroe-Woodbury School District can be found on th district's web site[/left].
http://www.mw.k12.ny.us/webpages/annexkiryasjoel/index.cfm?subpage=20446
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[left]Hirsch should stop Kiryas Joel annexation plans
'Our neighbors are frustrated by the annexation proposals'
It is fair to say that Mayer Hirsch is the one who stands behind the annexation proposals (507 and 164 acres).
It is clear that in exchange for Governor Cuomo’s veto of two bills on July 8th that would have required local government’s oversight for annexation of land within their boundaries, he "donated" $250,000 to the Governor’s campaign “war chest” on July 13th and 14th.
In the KJ community, he is known as the owner of Vaad Hakiryah. He is the landholding entity which owns almost a third of the 285 undeveloped acres included in the larger annexation request, and the 140-acre ACE Farm in Monroe and Woodbury. Hirsch controls the housing market in KJ and the local village government. Hirsch appointed his nephew, Gedalye Szegedin, as village clerk and administrator.
Therefore, I will address my concerns directly to Mr. Mayer Hirsch.
It is well-known by now that our neighbors are frustrated by the annexation proposals. They have been extremely upset since December 2013 when your first Annexation Petition was filed.
Their anger and frustration has grown and continues to grow by the minute. They are not only angry with you and our leaders, but with all residents of KJ.
As powerful as you believe you are, your actions put us all in jeopardy.
I beg you, don’t wait for consequences of your actions.
It is long overdue that you realize the annexation petitions are not in the best interest of our community.
It is time to take the right steps: withdraw the annexation petitions and apologize to all our wonderful neighbors.
Ben Friedman
Kiryas Joel[/left]
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150829/OPINION/150829418/2014/OPINION
http://thephoto-news.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20150831/OPINION03/150839995
'Our neighbors are frustrated by the annexation proposals'
It is fair to say that Mayer Hirsch is the one who stands behind the annexation proposals (507 and 164 acres).
It is clear that in exchange for Governor Cuomo’s veto of two bills on July 8th that would have required local government’s oversight for annexation of land within their boundaries, he "donated" $250,000 to the Governor’s campaign “war chest” on July 13th and 14th.
In the KJ community, he is known as the owner of Vaad Hakiryah. He is the landholding entity which owns almost a third of the 285 undeveloped acres included in the larger annexation request, and the 140-acre ACE Farm in Monroe and Woodbury. Hirsch controls the housing market in KJ and the local village government. Hirsch appointed his nephew, Gedalye Szegedin, as village clerk and administrator.
Therefore, I will address my concerns directly to Mr. Mayer Hirsch.
It is well-known by now that our neighbors are frustrated by the annexation proposals. They have been extremely upset since December 2013 when your first Annexation Petition was filed.
Their anger and frustration has grown and continues to grow by the minute. They are not only angry with you and our leaders, but with all residents of KJ.
As powerful as you believe you are, your actions put us all in jeopardy.
I beg you, don’t wait for consequences of your actions.
It is long overdue that you realize the annexation petitions are not in the best interest of our community.
It is time to take the right steps: withdraw the annexation petitions and apologize to all our wonderful neighbors.
Ben Friedman
Kiryas Joel[/left]
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150829/OPINION/150829418/2014/OPINION
http://thephoto-news.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20150831/OPINION03/150839995
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אזוי ווי אפילו די טאון באורד ווייסן אז יונייטעד מאנרא גייט אריינגיין אין קאורט איבער זייער (ווארשיינדליכע) שטימע איבער אנעקסעישאן, האבן זיי יעצט געהייערט א לויער פירמע
[left]Monroe hires law firm to advise on KJ annexation vote
MONROE - The Monroe Town Board plans to get last-minute legal advice on potential lawsuits before voting on two proposals to expand Kiryas Joel.
At a special meeting Thursday night, board members met privately with Goshen attorney Michael Donnelly and then announced they were hiring the Washington, D.C.-based law firm Lewis Baach for advice on "litigation and constitutional issues that might arise as a result of the annexation," as town Supervisor Harley Doles put it. He scheduled a closed-door meeting with an attorney from the firm at 7:15 p.m. Monday.
"This is serious enough where each and every one of us feel that we want the absolute best legal advice on these matters before any vote on any issue," Councilman Richard Colon said, calling the lawyer they would meet with "the quintessential expert in the field."
The board must decide by Sept. 8 on two petitions to annex 507 acres or 164 acres into Kiryas Joel from the Town of Monroe. Anxious about the approaching deadline, audience members at Thursday's meeting demanded the board also set a date to vote on the annexation petitions. But Doles told them he won't schedule a vote until after the board has met with the Lewis Baach attorney, leaving five weekdays for the board to act, with Labor Day on Sept. 7 excluded.
Annexation opponents have vowed to sue if the Monroe board approves either petition, perhaps in both state and federal court. Their attorneys have argued from the outset of the controversy that moving political lines to benefit a religious group - Kiryas Joel's Satmar Hasidic community - would violate the separation of church and state and would be contested in federal court. A recent legal analysis by Orange County's consultants indicates that the county government or neighboring municipalities and property owners also might sue in state court to challenge Kiryas Joel's environmental review or the annexation approval itself.
Kiryas Joel has a separate set of legal claims it could make if Monroe rejects the petitions. The county's legal analysis - contained in a report on the annexation proposals last week by the Center for Governmental Research and The Chazen Companies - notes that researchers were told throughout their study that "anti-Semitism throughout the larger community" was the reason for the opposition. The report warned that Kiryas Joel or the annexation petitioners might sue under the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, the 14th Amendment and the Fair Housing Act.
"The various governmental entities should recognize that they have an obligation to ensure their actions do not encroach upon religious freedoms and other constitutionally and statutorily protected civil rights," the authors wrote.
They also noted that plaintiffs who win Religious Land Use lawsuits typically win monetary damages and payment for their attorneys' fees, "even in cases that settle before trial."[/left]
[left]Monroe hires law firm to advise on KJ annexation vote
MONROE - The Monroe Town Board plans to get last-minute legal advice on potential lawsuits before voting on two proposals to expand Kiryas Joel.
At a special meeting Thursday night, board members met privately with Goshen attorney Michael Donnelly and then announced they were hiring the Washington, D.C.-based law firm Lewis Baach for advice on "litigation and constitutional issues that might arise as a result of the annexation," as town Supervisor Harley Doles put it. He scheduled a closed-door meeting with an attorney from the firm at 7:15 p.m. Monday.
"This is serious enough where each and every one of us feel that we want the absolute best legal advice on these matters before any vote on any issue," Councilman Richard Colon said, calling the lawyer they would meet with "the quintessential expert in the field."
The board must decide by Sept. 8 on two petitions to annex 507 acres or 164 acres into Kiryas Joel from the Town of Monroe. Anxious about the approaching deadline, audience members at Thursday's meeting demanded the board also set a date to vote on the annexation petitions. But Doles told them he won't schedule a vote until after the board has met with the Lewis Baach attorney, leaving five weekdays for the board to act, with Labor Day on Sept. 7 excluded.
Annexation opponents have vowed to sue if the Monroe board approves either petition, perhaps in both state and federal court. Their attorneys have argued from the outset of the controversy that moving political lines to benefit a religious group - Kiryas Joel's Satmar Hasidic community - would violate the separation of church and state and would be contested in federal court. A recent legal analysis by Orange County's consultants indicates that the county government or neighboring municipalities and property owners also might sue in state court to challenge Kiryas Joel's environmental review or the annexation approval itself.
Kiryas Joel has a separate set of legal claims it could make if Monroe rejects the petitions. The county's legal analysis - contained in a report on the annexation proposals last week by the Center for Governmental Research and The Chazen Companies - notes that researchers were told throughout their study that "anti-Semitism throughout the larger community" was the reason for the opposition. The report warned that Kiryas Joel or the annexation petitioners might sue under the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, the 14th Amendment and the Fair Housing Act.
"The various governmental entities should recognize that they have an obligation to ensure their actions do not encroach upon religious freedoms and other constitutionally and statutorily protected civil rights," the authors wrote.
They also noted that plaintiffs who win Religious Land Use lawsuits typically win monetary damages and payment for their attorneys' fees, "even in cases that settle before trial."[/left]
מיט דעם האט זיך געענדיגט נאך א תגובה'לע פון שעפטל'ן, א "לייק" איז א שטופ אויף פראנויס פאר נאכיינס...
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[left]United Monroe
Hello everyone,
I look forward to seeing a great turnout for our march to the annexation vote hearing on Tuesday, September 8th. If the large and spirited crowd of folks who attended the rally and meeting this week is an indicator, we will pack the house next week. I believe that it's very important for our Town Board members to have to look as many of us in the eye as they cast the votes that can change Monroe, and our school district, forever.
For those of you who have not yet attended a meeting in Kiryas Joel, here's what you should expect:
- Prior to the event, the ruling faction of KJ, or "Anash", will distribute leaflets to villagers warning them not to speak with us. They will be warned that we wish to assimilate them into our culture, using our "missionary tactics."
- Supervisor Doles, and possibly Councilman McQuade, will make passive aggressive and inflammatory comments from the dais, in hopes that non-KJ citizens will act out.
-There will be a large armed security presence, courtesy of the Kiryas Joel Constables, and probably a group of Supervisor Doles' armed "watch guards." The presence of an excessive amount of armed men is to intimidate us and discourage public participation in official open meetings.
- The banquet hall will be crowded with large groups of young men from KJ, or "Yeshiva Boys." They will mill about, follow some of us around the hall, and act in a manner designed to agitate non-KJ residents.
All of these tactics are part of a strategy to intimidate and agitate those of us who live outside of Kiryas Joel. The purpose - to goad someone into acting out in a way that Doles can use as an example to justify his sick fantasies of anti-Semitism and the "need" for the annexations.
I respectfully ask that we all do our best to avoid any form of confrontation and harassment at all costs. We are all frustrated. We are all angry. We are concerned for the future of our community and our schools. We are not being heard.
I've said it before: people such as Doles, who act poorly expect savage behavior from the rest of us. We are much more civilized than the majority of the men who will be seated above us next Tuesday at Bais Rochel Paradise Hall. We must not take the bait.
Our strength is in our sincerity, and in the large number of peaceful, civilized human beings that will show up to watch our Town Board do the unthinkable. We should take special care to march into the hall peacefully, take our seats, and ignore the hecklers and agitators. Once we hear the votes, we should walk out in the same peaceful manner in which we entered the building.
In addition, there is nothing that any of our Town Board members can do next week that will merit our approval or applause. Based on the overwhelming facts in the case against annexation, unanimous "no" votes on both petitions should be expected. Town Board members should not be rewarded for doing their jobs properly. That's what they are supposed to do. In the event that the 164 acre petition is approved and the 507 acre petition is denied, we should remain silent. Giving away 164 acres of our Town to the unneighborly KJPE is not a "compromise."
I've read some comments on other Facebook pages from people stating that they wish to dress provocatively for the annexation meeting. With all my heart, I ask of you - please don't. Any type of behavior on our part that can be interpreted as an insult to the culture of KJ residents will be taken as such, and used against us by Doles and the KJPE.
Please remember - we are not at war with the culture or religion of the Satmars of KJ. Our enemy is the criminal and morally corrupt enterprise -the KJPE - and their subordinate, Harley Doles.
Thank you so much for your support over the past two years. The battle will be engaged - in the courts - immediately following the vote next Tuesday night. We are on the side of right, and we will prevail.
-John[/left]
Hello everyone,
I look forward to seeing a great turnout for our march to the annexation vote hearing on Tuesday, September 8th. If the large and spirited crowd of folks who attended the rally and meeting this week is an indicator, we will pack the house next week. I believe that it's very important for our Town Board members to have to look as many of us in the eye as they cast the votes that can change Monroe, and our school district, forever.
For those of you who have not yet attended a meeting in Kiryas Joel, here's what you should expect:
- Prior to the event, the ruling faction of KJ, or "Anash", will distribute leaflets to villagers warning them not to speak with us. They will be warned that we wish to assimilate them into our culture, using our "missionary tactics."
- Supervisor Doles, and possibly Councilman McQuade, will make passive aggressive and inflammatory comments from the dais, in hopes that non-KJ citizens will act out.
-There will be a large armed security presence, courtesy of the Kiryas Joel Constables, and probably a group of Supervisor Doles' armed "watch guards." The presence of an excessive amount of armed men is to intimidate us and discourage public participation in official open meetings.
- The banquet hall will be crowded with large groups of young men from KJ, or "Yeshiva Boys." They will mill about, follow some of us around the hall, and act in a manner designed to agitate non-KJ residents.
All of these tactics are part of a strategy to intimidate and agitate those of us who live outside of Kiryas Joel. The purpose - to goad someone into acting out in a way that Doles can use as an example to justify his sick fantasies of anti-Semitism and the "need" for the annexations.
I respectfully ask that we all do our best to avoid any form of confrontation and harassment at all costs. We are all frustrated. We are all angry. We are concerned for the future of our community and our schools. We are not being heard.
I've said it before: people such as Doles, who act poorly expect savage behavior from the rest of us. We are much more civilized than the majority of the men who will be seated above us next Tuesday at Bais Rochel Paradise Hall. We must not take the bait.
Our strength is in our sincerity, and in the large number of peaceful, civilized human beings that will show up to watch our Town Board do the unthinkable. We should take special care to march into the hall peacefully, take our seats, and ignore the hecklers and agitators. Once we hear the votes, we should walk out in the same peaceful manner in which we entered the building.
In addition, there is nothing that any of our Town Board members can do next week that will merit our approval or applause. Based on the overwhelming facts in the case against annexation, unanimous "no" votes on both petitions should be expected. Town Board members should not be rewarded for doing their jobs properly. That's what they are supposed to do. In the event that the 164 acre petition is approved and the 507 acre petition is denied, we should remain silent. Giving away 164 acres of our Town to the unneighborly KJPE is not a "compromise."
I've read some comments on other Facebook pages from people stating that they wish to dress provocatively for the annexation meeting. With all my heart, I ask of you - please don't. Any type of behavior on our part that can be interpreted as an insult to the culture of KJ residents will be taken as such, and used against us by Doles and the KJPE.
Please remember - we are not at war with the culture or religion of the Satmars of KJ. Our enemy is the criminal and morally corrupt enterprise -the KJPE - and their subordinate, Harley Doles.
Thank you so much for your support over the past two years. The battle will be engaged - in the courts - immediately following the vote next Tuesday night. We are on the side of right, and we will prevail.
-John[/left]
מיט דעם האט זיך געענדיגט נאך א תגובה'לע פון שעפטל'ן, א "לייק" איז א שטופ אויף פראנויס פאר נאכיינס...
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היום תאמצנו!!
היינט נאכט גייט זיין דער ענדגילטיגער אפשטימונג פון די טאון אוו מאנרא איבער די אנעקסעישן,
ס'הערשט גרויס אנגסט און געשפאנקייט מכל הצדדים,
די אפשטימונג גייט זיין און בית רחל פאראדייס,
יונייטעד מאנרא האט ארגענאזירט א ראלי 2 שעה פאר די הירינג, ווי זיי גייען מארשירן אנדערטהאלבן מייל ביז די זאל מיט גרויסע שילדן "ראטעוועט אונזערע שולעס!", "האלט אפ דעם אנעקסעישן!"
די טאון אוו מאנרא בארד באשטייט פון א סופערווייזער הארלי דאולס וואס איז פאני בראט מיט קרית יואל,
און 4 קאונסיל לייט (אלעס גוים), 2 זענען מיט די ווילעדש און 2 זענען קעגן (וואס די זאליס מיט יונייטעד מאנרא האבן אריינגעוואוט)
יונייטעד מאנרא לייגט גרויס האפענונג אין דרוק אויף איינע פון די 2 פרא קרית יואל קאנסילייט זאלן זיך בארעכענען און טון דאס יושר (לפי שיטתם)
היינט נאכט גייט זיין דער ענדגילטיגער אפשטימונג פון די טאון אוו מאנרא איבער די אנעקסעישן,
ס'הערשט גרויס אנגסט און געשפאנקייט מכל הצדדים,
די אפשטימונג גייט זיין און בית רחל פאראדייס,
יונייטעד מאנרא האט ארגענאזירט א ראלי 2 שעה פאר די הירינג, ווי זיי גייען מארשירן אנדערטהאלבן מייל ביז די זאל מיט גרויסע שילדן "ראטעוועט אונזערע שולעס!", "האלט אפ דעם אנעקסעישן!"
די טאון אוו מאנרא בארד באשטייט פון א סופערווייזער הארלי דאולס וואס איז פאני בראט מיט קרית יואל,
און 4 קאונסיל לייט (אלעס גוים), 2 זענען מיט די ווילעדש און 2 זענען קעגן (וואס די זאליס מיט יונייטעד מאנרא האבן אריינגעוואוט)
יונייטעד מאנרא לייגט גרויס האפענונג אין דרוק אויף איינע פון די 2 פרא קרית יואל קאנסילייט זאלן זיך בארעכענען און טון דאס יושר (לפי שיטתם)
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- האט שוין געלייקט: 2518 מאל
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פאלגענד זענען די אפיציעלע טאון טעל. נומערן און אימעיל אדרעסן פון די ערוויילטע באאמטע:
[left]Mr. Rick Colon, Town Councilman
rick@monroeny.org
845-597-9667
Mr. Dennis McWatters, Town Councilman
dmcwatters@monroeny.org
845-500-8216
Mr. Gerry McQuade, Town Councilman
gerard@monroeny.org
845-500-1997
Mr. Daniel Burke, Town Councilman
dburke@monroeny.org
845-637-5450
Mr. Harley Doles, Town Supervisor
supervisor@monroeny.org
845-500-0889[/left]
אויך קען מען רופן אינעם טאון אפיס אויף 845-783-1900 און בעטן איבערצוגעבן די בקשה פאר די באורד מעמבערס
אלגעמיינע נוסח
[left]Hello, My name is ---
As a resident in the Town of Monroe, I would to thank you for all your hard work, servicing all the people in the town. It’s really appreciated.
Now I ask you, to do the right thing, please vote “YES” to approve the KJ annexation.
This annexation is in the best interest of all residents in the town.
Thank you and have a wonderful day[/left].
(אפשענעל) אויב איר ווילט עפעס מער צולייגן ווען איר רופט, האבן מיר צוגעלייגט עטליכע ביישפילן:
… [left]I need housing for me and my children. The need for housing in the community will be growing in the coming years. For many reasons our primary option for housing is only within the KJ community. Housing is a right that everyone must have access to it, and no one can deny it for any reason[/left].
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[left]...Annexation is a right under the state law that all people may get. No matter from which ethnicity or religion they are. I respectfully ask you to make that statement clear by voting YES on the annexations.[/left]
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[left]...I want to live in peace with our neighbors as we did in the past 40 years by continuing to live and raise our families within the borders of the village of Kiryas Joel.
The one proven way to lay the foundation for peace and harmony was the creation of our own village and school district. And this has been continued as a result of the annexation 30 years ago, and that's going to be the result of approving the current annexation[/left].
מיט דעם האט זיך געענדיגט נאך א תגובה'לע פון שעפטל'ן, א "לייק" איז א שטופ אויף פראנויס פאר נאכיינס...
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גאלד האט געשריבן:היום תאמצנו!!
היינט נאכט גייט זיין דער ענדגילטיגער אפשטימונג פון די טאון אוו מאנרא איבער די אנעקסעישן,
ס'הערשט גרויס אנגסט און געשפאנקייט מכל הצדדים,
די אפשטימונג גייט זיין און בית רחל פאראדייס,
יונייטעד מאנרא האט ארגענאזירט א ראלי 2 שעה פאר די הירינג, ווי זיי גייען מארשירן אנדערטהאלבן מייל ביז די זאל מיט גרויסע שילדן "ראטעוועט אונזערע שולעס!", "האלט אפ דעם אנעקסעישן!"
די טאון אוו מאנרא בארד באשטייט פון א סופערווייזער הארלי דאולס וואס איז פאני בראט מיט קרית יואל,
און 4 קאונסיל לייט (אלעס גוים), 2 זענען מיט די ווילעדש און 2 זענען קעגן (וואס די זאליס מיט יונייטעד מאנרא האבן אריינגעוואוט)
יונייטעד מאנרא לייגט גרויס האפענונג אין דרוק אויף איינע פון די 2 פרא קרית יואל קאנסילייט זאלן זיך בארעכענען און טון דאס יושר (לפי שיטתם)
פין די 2 וואס די רעכנסט אז זיי זענען פרא יונייטעד מאנרוי אין אלייענס (נאר איינס פין די האט יונייטעד אריינגעוואוט), איינס פין די 2 זענען זיי שוין ציקריגט אין יוניידעט מאנרוי גייט שטעלן א קאנדידאט קעגן אים, אין מיט דעם צווייטען ווייסט יעדער אז מ'קען זיך נישט אויסרעכענען, אבער די אנטיסעמיטען האפען אז מיט די שרעקליכע דרוק אין 'טעראר' וואס זיי לייגן וועלן זיי קענען ברעכן די טאון זאל וואוטען לויט זייער ווילן, ונזכה ונחי'
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פון צווישן די שורות פון די אלע רעפארטס נעם איך ארויס אז די אפאזישן צו די אנעקסעישן (ביידע) איז נישט נאר ביי די גוי'אישע איינוואוינערס פון די ארומיגע שטעטלעך. נאר אויך צווישן היימישן עולם (מכם ובכם). א יעדער איינער לויט זיינע אייגענע שמאלע אינטערעסן און די שמאלע אינטערעסן פון זיין גרופ. ואי אפשר לפורטם כי רבים הם. נאר א קליינע דוגמא...."זאליס" בני יואל" איפכא מסתברא'ניקס, און סתם אומפארגינערס וועלכע האלטן אז .."גם לי, גם לך לא יהיה"...און פארדעים זענען זיי מסכים צו גיין צוזאמען מיט די גויים וועלכע זענען גאנץ קנאפע אוהבי ישראל....יא. ליידער...!